Required for What?

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I hear a lot of 119 Ministries followers say that the Law is required for all believers. My question is, required for what?

For Salvation?
For Rewards?
To please God?
To be counted as righteous?
For a good life?

For Salvation? I haven’t heard anybody who ascribes to following the Law (as a Christian) who believes this. So we are on the same page biblically in this regard. Whew!

For rewards? Now this, I have heard a lot about. And this is how it’s told: we obey the Law out of our deep love for God. But when we obey, we are told we will receive future rewards, future crowns, & present blessings.

Up to this point, Scripture supports this. However, by the time you tack on “required” regarding the Law, you have taken what was a love relationship & made it into an employer-employee relationship. No longer is the focus on the object of your love. Now it is on the requirements and the rewards upon *achieving* (key word) those requirements.

As soon as Salvation is begun at the foot of the cross, where we brought nothing & have received Jesus’ grace & righteousness, we stand up and start achieving suddenly? It’s as if God is holding out a bone saying, “Here, come this way. Look at this yummy treat you get if you obey what I demand…” Except, God is not like that. HE wants to be our reward, what we seek, and our portion forever.

Yes, because He is lavish with His love, He gives all kinds of gifts & rewards. But our obedience to the old Law is not a requirement. Faith in Jesus is what produces this.

To please God?
If we do the Law, God is pleased. If we do not keep the Law He is not pleased. It cannot be any other way if we accept the presumption that the Law is required. However, I do not keep the old Law. Many true believers do not keep the old Law. We please God by our faith. Hebrews 11 lists person after person who pleased God through their faith. Interestingly, their deeds were all vastly different. So the deed itself could not be what pleased God. Rather, what was common to each of them was a solid faith & belief in God. So it becomes clear that not in keeping the Law do we please God, but in having faith in Him. That faith gets walked out, not in the Laws we keep but by our loving desire of voluntary obedience to the Person of God in the moment He asks it of us.

To be counted as righteous?
“But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, so that, just as it is written, “Let him who boasts, boast in the Lord.””
-1 Corinthians 1:30-31

“He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”
-2 Corinthians 5:21

The only righteousness we have is the righteousness we receive in the person of Jesus. We cannot produce any righteous acts. Our salvation & our sanctification are both only possible in the person of Jesus. If our post-salvation deeds can produce righteousness, then we do not need Jesus’ righteousness post-salvation. And, further, if we can produce righteous deeds, we add to the righteousness of Jesus, because it is done extra-Jesus or outside of the person of Jesus. That goes entirely counter to Scripture.

For a good life?
This is shallow at best. And naive. Is it Scriptural to believe that if we keep the Law our lives will be filled with peace, joy, & safety? Consider Jesus…he was rejected, betrayed, beaten, and crucified. He kept every Law even in its intent. Consider Paul…if as Law keepers believe, he also kept the Law vigilantly, why did he suffer beatings, imprisonment, slander, and martyrdom? So a good & happy life is not necessarily going to follow precise keeping of the Law. In fact, Scripture assures believers their lives will be rather challenging & stressful. In God’s sum total of the world view He is privy to, every believer’s life is good and for their good. But the good may not be revealed in this lifetime. So, to claim peace & joyful prosperity as a result of fulfilling the requirement of the Law is scripturally inaccurate.

Lastly, if keeping the Law is required for something & you don’t keep the Law, you cannot receive the thing for which you did not keep the requirement. And if you can, then the thing which is required, isn’t a requirement since you can get it without completing the requirement fully. For example, if you must complete a driving test & submit ID & pay a fee in order to receive a drivers license, those three things are requirements having to be fulfilled. They are not optional. If you don’t do those things, you get no license. If however, you don’t do those things and you still receive your license anyway, then those things cannot not be truly required.

In light of this, if we cannot completely keep the requirements of the Law after salvation, we cannot receive what we would if we could. However, if grace covers the mistakes and sins, then the requirements do not have to be met in order to receive anything. And they cease to be real requirements if, in not fulfilling them, you can still receive what you hoped to. Likewise, if grace does not cover the gaps, and the requirements are true requirements, then we can not afford to leave anything undone. And if this is true, we are ALL without hope.

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  1. Hello Ma’am, I was surprised to see you have selected a new theme for your site. I guess that means you will be posting in the future. I very much encourage you to do so. I sat down to write my first article about 119 and the HRM and found your site bookmarked in my favorites and went to add your site to my blogroll and was very very happy to see you have written twice since I was here least time. Please keep doing what you can. I am making a site on 119 where I will be breaking their “What is the Gospel” video down into small TESTABLE sections. It will be a couple weeks before I launch because I have to to write about 12 resource/information pages and then I have to get better at video editing software -lolol- Good Luck on that huh? LOLOL

    Well just wanted to take a moment to encourage you and let you know it is people and sites like yours that are making me throw my two pennies in too. THANKS AND HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

    • Sweet, another true tester of the Word! I too, like you, am making a site to counter 119 Ministries. I’ll be doing it in much the same way they counter regular Christianity – smart use of social media, video messages, and testing everything. I’d love to check out your site too once you get it up and running!

  2. Soo god (witch most christians dont know his name or use it) sent his olny begotten son to violate deut 13 councel rebellion aganst the torah folill every command ment even the ones for women break the forth commandment die for sin and choose a torah scholler the apostle paul to go in to the nations and claim love now fofills the same law that was done away with? And is bondage and a curse? Acourding to romans 3:31 do then make void the torah through mersy aka grace GOD FORBIDS IT SO STOP TEACHING AGANST THE TORAH!

    • Wow. That was a lot of spelling error.
      Anyways, you do know that following the Torah doesn’t produce love, right? All following the Torah does is make you self-conscious about wether or not you’re conforming to the standards you’ve set upon yourself. The Torah doesn’t put the emphasis on Christ, where it should go, but on you. Love is defined as affectionate concern for others well-being, which can then be simplified into selflessness. As was seen above, the Torah doesn’t produce love in a believer as they become more preoccupied with following the Torah and scolding those who do not. I Am (the literal translation of YHVH or YHWH, which comes from the Hebrew root word for to be) sent His son to follow the Torah perfectly so as to complete its purpose, which is how the word fulfill is used in the text. If it has then had its purpose completed, what more can it do? It’s like a tool — used for one purpose then put away till it’s needed again.
      And yes, the Law is still profitable in the same way that one math problem is profitable for solving another — examples. The Law now serves as only one of the many examples of how to live, but is not the only way. The Holy Spirit has many, many ways that it can take a believer depending on circumstances. Sometimes it might look like Torah, sometimes it might not, but it will always look like love.

      • Look up the word wicked in a concordance. Paul says thies people will be when revealed consumed and destroyed. Or how about the word liars in The Book of Revelations that will have there place in the lake of fire. And people who say jesus came to fofill the law and do away with it even thow he said i did not come to do away with the law and any one who teaches the least of the Commandments and does the same will be called least in the kingdom. Makes jesus a false profit by the words of moses. Deut 13.

  3. So let me get this straight nick, you think I’m going to the lake of fire even though I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior, which saves me from having to endure eternity in the lake of fire?

    • No no no no no, TORAH isn’t bondage it’s not for salvation it’s not for love it’s obedience, it’s respect if you have the point of view as this: I have rules in my house, not to be cruel to my children or for them to buy my affection and love I have them there to protect them and keep them safe, same thing with TORAH it’sDaddys house rules because he loves us and keeps us safe and yes God will love you no matter what if someone tells you that your going to hell for not following yvwvhs law it’s not true not in scripture. Also where in scripture does it say the law is done away with??

  4. I often see an exchange of scripture to defend our position like a dual or sword fight. How Abba Father must be weeping over all this. Don’t get me wrong I love the word.

    Our personal testimony will show how only the Holy Spirit can put the truth of the Torah on our hearts. Since I have embraced the gentle heartbeat of Yaweh’s times and seasons and walked away from Babylon, my life has changed. I truly know Him better and He meets me at those times.

    I am where I am by the leading of His Spirit, not due to any one ministry or person teaching me to go there. They helped fill in the gaps when I started to pray and ask why I was feeling so uncomfortable about Chrismas and Easter. 119 Ministries is only one of many the Father, Elohim has used to unpack ingrained and wrong foundations. Any change can only be Spirit led.

    The icing on the cake are the blessings of obeying His commandments. My marriage was in steep decline and now it is miraculously being healed! Praise Yah!

  5. “I do not keep the old Law” and “our obedience to the old Law is not a requirement”

    So when NT scripture tells us to not fulfill the deeds of the flesh which is sin & sin is transgressing of the law we are free to sin? Is this not a requirement? Did not those in the NT who continued in sin, which is transgression of God’s law, were expelled from the body for continued sin? However the author neglects to bring this out. so… the law has been done away with…

    Yippee!!! Bring on the adultery, drunkenness, etc. But wait…

    Perhaps this will clarify how we are to love God and our neighbor. What does scripture say?

    1 John 2:2-5
    “2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.”

    So the author claims that IF you obey you are not LOVING but an employee to employer relationship. Funny but scripture does not support such a claim. We can have grace, faith, love the Father & obey.

    Revelation speaks about the end time believers, a time in our future, in regards to His commandments too…

    Revelation 12:17
    And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the COMMANDMENTS of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    Revelation 14:12
    Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the COMMANDMENTS of God AND the FAITH of Jesus.

    Revelation 22:14
    Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

    If this was not enough we also see other NT scriptures that support doing His word…

    Romans 2:13
    “for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;”

    James 1:22
    “But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.”

    By claiming the law has been done away with goes against everything the New Covenant entails! Read it for yourself…

    Jeremiah 31:31-34 ‘A New Covenant’

    “31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

    Notice it does NOT say some, or part of the law will be written on our hearts & minds but all!

    The problem is most believers do not understand obedience, so let me explain…

    If I am driving my car and I break the posted speed limit, a cop pulls me over and gives me a ticket. I have a written ordinance of the law I broke. Now I have to pay a fine & if I can’t I do some jail time. So is the law of driving 25mph bad? No. Since the police officer who passed the all the police academy tests 100% and fulfilled the requirements does that mean the law has been done away with? No.

    You see if we break God’s law, then we are in sin and we are what Paul states “under the law of sin & death”; however as a believer I am under the law of liberty – IOW by HIS power, His Holy Spirit and His word that is written on my heart I lovingly obey. So in that aspect I am not transgressing the law but free from the sin which leads to death. I have liberty & freedom to travel from point A to point B unobstructed. As a believer I can love God AND I can obey Him at the same time.

    As a father, my daughter loves me but she also obeys the rules/law of the house. Just because she obeys does NOT mean that in her obedience her love is somehow cancelled or impossible. The author states this is not possible but because she has been taught God’s word she lovingly chooses to NOT sin. Will she be perfect? No and that is were grace comes in. As long as we repent, grow and not continue in the same sin over and over again, then that sin does not distance us from the Father.

    The author seems to imply that you cannot love God and keep His commandments but scripture shows you can…

    1 John 5:1-3
    “5 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.”

    So while I appreciate the author’s zeal, we must all look to scripture for the truth. IF the law has been done away with then WHY did God state in Jeremiah in regards to the NEW COVENANT that the law would be written on our hearts & minds if we were not to obey?

    So are we to make void the law in our lives and do away with it?

    Romans 3:31
    Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

    You see we are to NOT continue in sin, NOT satisfy the deeds of the flesh, NOT do what the world does because we LOVE the Father. Its not a list of things that I begrudgingly do but a change in my nature to NOT want to sin. Its like a caterpillar changing into a butterfly.

    So Love God, love your neighbor (which comes from the law) & be a light to the world.

    Stop discouraging people to be disobedient – if God lays it on my heart & others to observe the sabbath, feasts, etc then that is what HE wants me to do. One question I have…

    Where does it say in scripture if I observe the sabbath or feasts I am in sin?

    If you say the feasts have been done away with then you have to throw out books like Zechariah… WARNING THIS PASSAGE WILL MAKE A LOT OF BELIEVERS CRINGE BECAUSE ITS ABOUT THE NEW MILLENNIUM AND IT CONFRONTS WHAT MANY PASTORS TEACH AGAINST, SUCH AS THE FEASTS OF THE LORD…

    Zechariah 14:16-21
    The Nations Worship the King

    16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 20 In that day “HOLINESS TO THE LORD” shall be engraved on the bells of the horses. The pots in the Lord’s house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the Lord of hosts.[a] Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.

    Btw the word ‘nations’ is defined as mankind! It does not mean jews. So in the New Millennium we see the Feast of Tabernacles is still being observed. Its not strange because God did state that is His feasts were to be observed forever and here is the proof.

    So before anyone rants,starts calling me names, or criticizing my grammer or spelling lets remember that scripture does NOT lie. If your beliefs are confronted by simple passages like this and others, then its time to rethink what you know as ‘truth’.

    Now we are the bride of Christ and He is coming back for a pure & spotless bride. ALL theologians agree that this means we are NOT to continue in sin. So how do we become spotless? Gee perhaps by NOT sinning and transgressing His law. BTW the word “law” is better translated ‘instructions’. so in the end you choose who and what you are going to obey or disobey.

    Just don’t rag on people that are being obedient and loving the Father. After all does scripture say we are required to sin after we believe in Him or are not?

    😉

    • Colossians 2:16-17 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

      Pay attention now you who judge. The substance belongs to Christ, our Savior.

      However, I am positive you will have a misinterpretation for this too. Sadly, you are lost and we will pray for you. BTW, there was no ragging involved. This website is incredibly helpful to those of us whose families as been ripped apart by COGs, HRM, JW, and the likes. If you are ever so inclined, please ask a Jewish person how they feel about HRM. My Jewish friends find it offensive.

      May CHRIST be in your soul and may you be blessed in knowing that CHRIST IS OUR SAVIOR.

      PS: You have a soul given and your soul is owned by God. In order to keep it, you must accept CHRIST into your heart.

      • Wow Gina…I think you are so blinded from the truth of God’s Holy Word, by the thousands upon thousands of years of subtle work by Satan to distort the Gospel. You missed, or choose not to acknowledge the need to continue to seek why you believe what you believe-when you pick scripture out of context to support your personal choices that happen to go against what our Wonderful ABBA has for those who choose to love Him the way HE asks to be loved. Please first-understand Paul being a Pharisee was a follower of the LAW. He clearly embraced Yeshua as his Savior and Lord-he would not purposely teach ANYONE to
        to go against what had been taught in God’s Holy Word. Many people have used Col 2:16 as the reason not to honor the Lord’s appointed feasts and Sabbaths without clear understanding of Paul’s teachings. Even Peter himself states “as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.” 2 Peter 3:16. It is wonderful you have Jewish friends, but have you personally realized they will not accept “our Jesus” because He is so… (for lack of a better word) Unjewish? Jesus came and lived a completely Jewish life-HE Himself says “I am the way, and the truth and the life;” John 14:6 It is unfortunate that HE has been stripped of the heritage from which HE came to save the world. Think about it, much like the 11 brothers couldn’t recognize they’re own brother Joseph, because to them he looked like an Egyptian-the same has happened to their/our Messiah. But as WE, believers in Christ continue to study the scriptures and embrace ALL of God’s Holy Word-WE will ultimately “…provoke them to jealousy.” Rom 11:11. I will keep you in prayer, it is a very heavy responsibility you are taking on, but prayerfully people will be encouraged to test everything. I leave you with Christ’s words from John 15:10 “If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love; just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in His love.”

        May God bless you with revelation,

        P.S. reread Steve’s post- it really is quite informative.

  6. We keep the Law because YHVH said to and that is how we show we are HIs, by obedience to HIS commands, not our own or the world’s. So sad you feel the need to lead people away from the truth. Am praying for you.

  7. Greetings,

    At the onset of this article the stage was set to introduce an argument through abductive reasoning to establish a conclusion. To the authors credit, it was well used but non the less has no place in instructing the Fathers words. The argument ‘required’ draws the reader from the real question, “Why?”, and the subsequent answer. From the Torah, as simplistic as this may seem, it is from our Father and is irrefutable.

    “For I am, Yeh-ho-vaw, Elohim, you be purified, be sacred, for I am sacred. Do not pollute yourselfs whatsoever with swarms that creep on the earth.
    For I am, Yeh-ho-vaw, by whom you ascended from the wilderness of Egypt, to be your Elohim, so be sacred, for I am sacred”

    We are told to do these things by Yeh-ho-vaw for one reason. He is sacred. He is Holy.

    All is for his honor and glory and majesty. We do and obey, not for reasons of requirements, but because He is sacred.

    We were created with the design to procreate and were given a family structure to shadow the relationship humans are to have with our Father. Within that family structure was embedded the commitment of honoring the patriarch through all of ones actions and words. It was an engrained trait, but no longer. And in losing this physical trait, we have lost the purpose of why we conduct ourselves in the manner for which we are instructed. And that is to honor and glorify our Father for he is our Patriarch.

    Shalom all

  8. James 2:14
    What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

    Some simple math: works = Torah/Law

    So with what James tell us very clearly and very simply we have:

    Faith + no works = Not saved
    Faith + works/Law = saved

    So in answer to your question “what is the Law required for” James wrote it for you 2000 yrs ago…our works are testimony of our faith in YHWH”. Unfortunately you and many others somehow missed it, fortunately it is still available to reference. and waht is he telling us just a simply here :

    James2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

    9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

    So if we can be transgressors of some law and..

    1 John 3:4
    sin is the transgression of the law.

    Then what Law I pray thee tell me is everyone talking about throughout the new testament that we should be doing? James 2:8 just made it clear “according to scripture” and when he wrote that letter the only scripture was ‘the law and the Prophets/The Old Testament’ so he can be only referring to them.

    YHWH’s merciful blessings…timothy

  9. Wow cue the peanut gallery. This scripture battle is pointless. There are verses that support both sides. The bottom line is this.
    They (119 and the HRM) that these are God’s rules and we should follow them out of respect.
    So tell me…how am I loving God more by ignoring Easter and pretending to be a Jew during Passover?
    I am not. If anything since it offends His Jewish children it hurts both God and His children.
    How am I loving God by giving up bacon? Is that really more important than how I treat people?
    It makes NO SENSE!
    Love is the fulfillment of the law and it has nothing to do with which days I set aside and call holy or what I eat.

    • Yeah, I know. Sometimes I get tired of trying to prove things Scripturally and just want to throw my hands up and say, “Don’t you get it?!? It’s all about loving Jesus & loving others. Period.” But then I see how badly they twist Scripture and I hear people getting confused by their high, religious talk. And I feel like I have to put something out there that helps shine a light on where they veer off from the truth. Too many families are being torn apart by their lies. I hope this does a little to help believer’s see where the 119ers are being deceptive, on purpose or accidentally. Regardless, I’m sorry your mother has been drawn into their false teachings and if there are any questions you have, I can try to answer them plainly. Thanks for stopping by & sorry to disappoint your hopes.

    • Kelly,

      I like your attitude and I find you comical (if you don’t mind me saying so). I would like to shed just a tiny drop of light on the subject that you address in your rebuttal. I will keep it short since you did too. The Bible talks about celebrating the same feasts and “holy days” as the heathen do and He frowns on it. Just food for thought. I am NOT trying to convenience, God changed my heart and if wants to, He’ll change yours too–and if not, then that’s cool too! I don’t pretend to be a Jew when I celebrate Passover. It is a time of remembrance, in MY opinion better than the remembrance associated with Easter of what Jesus did for us. Now…on to bacon! 😀 While, you can eat whatever you want and that is fine, no scripture says the unclean became clean, but it doesn’t matter…we don’t need a scripture war, as you indicated. If you take pigs outside of the bible context, they are so GROSS! Just do a tiny bit of research and you’ll see what you’re truly eating. 😀 Lord bless you richly and keep your foot from slipping as you continue to walk with Him daily!! 🙂

  10. Leah,

    Thanks for posting. I’m a Christian who follows the Torah. I observe Sabbath and I cover my head. I like your points and your references. I do what I do out of love for God only. I’m so sorry there are others seeking rewards. That is not my idea of true love, as you stated above. Also, I want to apologize for the other Torah observers here that have called you blinded and lost. That is not showing God’s love. Jesus did command us to love Him and others, not sure how you can do that when you’re putting someone down in the process. I don’t think you attacked the 119 Ministries (I have NO ties with them…I don’t agree with their doctrine) but I do think you put truth out there to be found. We have to take all 66 books of the Bible as doctrine, period. I don’t know why some do what they do but that is for God to judge the hearts of men (and women). I wanted to let you know, there are those of us who believe Jesus came to “renew” the covenant. The reason for this, if you don’t mind, is because the Pharisees and Sadducees got away from following the feasts and such out of love and were doing it out of duty and with contempt in their hearts. I think Jesus came to give the covenant a new jump-start and to spark a deep level of following God (who is Jesus) with our hearts of love. While a lot of Torah observers say that we follow all the laws ordained in the Old Testament, they are not accurate. We can only follow what is still relevant for today. We cannot offer sin offerings like they did in the OT and really we don’t have to since Jesus was our ultimate sacrifice. He came for the remission of sins. And faith in Him is what saves us, just like Abraham (for example) and everyone in the NT. Not works, not following the Torah, etc. What a lot would have us try to believe is now that we are covered by grace we can live as we please. But from your article, I can see that is NOT your stance. So, if you keep the 10 commandments, then you too observe the Torah. 🙂 Just because Jesus came, died and was resurrected, does not give us a “Sin As Much As You Want Without Penalty” card. 😀 That is the difference between lots of Christians and lots of Torah observing Christians. 😀 Blessings on you and yours. In Jesus!

  11. 1John 2:29 and 1John 3:7 say “Let no man deceive you, he who Practices Righteousness is Righteous.” So stop deceiving people. The Law of God is the way, The Truth , The Life and the Light. Jesus is the Living Word or Living Law/Torah. Psalm 119:142, Palms 119:105, Palms 119:29.
    The Law of God endures forever Psalms 119:160. The Law of God is Good Doctrine Proverbs 4:2.
    We don’t keep the Law to be saved, we keep the Law because we are saved. Do not get things twisted. Again 1John 2:29 and 1John 3:7 say “Let no man deceive you, he who Practices Righteousness is Righteous.”

    • 21 “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

      Galatians 2:21

      9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,

      Philippians 3:9

      These verses explain how righteousness isn’t found in keeping the law. Instead it’s found solely in Jesus. It’s His righteousness. So practicing righteousness isn’t the same as practicing the law.

      The verse you quoted was 1 John 2:29; but 1 John 2:28 says this: 28 Now, little children, abide in Him, so that when He appears, we may have confidence and not shrink away from Him in shame at His coming.

      1 John 2:28

      “Abide in him”…that’s where we get to practicing righteousness, by abiding. Because abiding is where we put on Jesus’ righteousness. So we don’t go around performing old works from old wine skins. We perform righteous works of love. 1 John 4 (a continuation of the quotes from 1 John you gave) talks all about loving God & loving others. That’s what acts are righteous. But they are righteous because they are Spirit originated out of our abiding. Also read John 15, straight from Jesus about abiding & love & the new law of love.

      • Hi Leah. I know I came in too hard on my first comment, my apologies.
        Yeshua said “If you Love me, Keep my commandments.” and we know that His commandments are not Burdensome 1John 5:3.

        My Questions

        1. Which Commandments are we suppose to keep?
        2. How do we show God we Love Him? Matthew 22:36-40 / Deuteronomy 6:5
        3.David was a Man after Gods own Heart (Act 13:22). What Qualified him to be a man after Gods own Heart? Read Psalm 119.
        4. Is the Law of God no longer Good Doctrine? Proverbs 4:2
        5. Is the Law of God no longer for our Prosperity? Joshua 1:8
        6. Is the Law of god no longer holy, righteous and good? Romans 7:12
        7. Should we not delight after the Law of God? Romans 7:22

        YOU SAY ‘Loving God and Loving Others are acts of Righteousness because they are spirit Originated.’ That’s 100% right. You forgot one thing though… “The Law of God is Spiritual” (Romans 7:14)

        Please note that we don’t keep the law to be saved. That’s an IMPOSSIBILITY. We are all saved by Grace through Faith in Christ Jesus Ephesians 2:8-10.

        We keep the Law because we Love the father and we want to Love him the way HE wants to be be Loved. “If you Love me, Keep my Commandments”

        The Law is not difficult at all. Deuteronomy 30:11-14
        His Commandments are not Burdensome 1John 5:3.

        THERE IS NO NEW LAW OF LOVE. The Law / Torah has always been about Loving God and Loving Others. Deuteronomy 6:5 Leviticus 19:18.

        In Exodus 20 alone, The Ten Commandments. The First four Commandments is about our Love for God. The Last six is about our Love for Others.

        Remember… Sin is transgression of the Law 1John 3:4.

        Where there is No Law, There is No sin, Romans 5:13 ; Romans 7:7-8.

        Where there is no Sin, There is NO NEED for Grace. Because Grace is pardon for Sin, Which is breaking God’s Law.

        If we don’t need Grace, then we wont need a savior because he died so that we can receive Grace, which is pardon for Sin, Which is breaking God’s Law.

        If we don’t need a savior, then we don’t need the Gospel because the Gospel is a story of a savior who died for us so that we can receive Grace, which is pardon for Sin, Which is breaking God’s Law.

        If we don’t need the Gospel, then we certainly don’t need a preacher. So we might as well throw away the Church.

        The Center of it all is the Law of God. Christ is the Living Law. John 1:14.

        NB. Please don’t forget my questions.

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